RICKY Stuart gone, no chief executive, the board split, the wooden spoon again.
Parramatta fans can now only take solace in a joke: when the Eels lose they can often still claim a moral victory because half the opposition is made up of Parramatta juniors.
The Hills Bulls can take a proprietorial interest in this year's NRL finals because three of their products are involved, but not with Parramatta.
David Williams and Jamie Buhrer are playing with the Manly Sea Eagles and Luke Keary is in the South Sydney squad.
There are two perspective on this.
Here is one from former Bulls junior coach Steve Sullivan: "Every junior at the Hills wants to play with Parramatta."
And here is Sullivan and Mark Mahoney, the now-Parramatta S.G. Ball and former Bulls coach, on the shared qualities that have taken the trio to the big-time.
Sullivan on "The Wolfman" Williams, who he coached: "He wasn't necessarily a superstar but he was strong-willed, determined, very solid.
"He was committed and intent on developing to the next level."
Mahoney on Keary: "He was very talented and driven. He has a great football brain and great work ethic and always had the ability."
On Buhrer: "He was the ultimate competitor, tough and talented, and his martial arts background has helped.
"He's got the work ethic and the discipline, dedication and drive."
Similar qualities shared.
Sullivan said what you saw with outsized personality Williams was who he was.
"Always," he said.
"He was always a joker and has always been solid with his mates.
"Dave played in a very talented team and wasn't a superstar," he said of the Bulls team Williams was in from age 11 to 17, a team that only missed winning the premiership in one of those years.
"He was a centre and back-rower then but very rugged and at 17 was picked in A grade but as a fullback, to keep him away from the old hard heads.
"He started scoring lots of tries."
And he went to Manly to get a start.
"There are lots of kids to pick from," said Mahoney of the Eels juniors and the ones who get away.
Keary was different.
Manly offered Mahoney a job as a junior representative coach and "I dragged him across," he said of the Oakhill College and Australian Schoolboys rugby player.
From there, Keary went to the Titans, then Souths.